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Originally Posted by Kane
BB curls is a compound
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By definition, a compound is a multi-joint movement. Count the joints involved in BB curls.
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Originally Posted by Kane
You can do a 5x5 with compounds and get crazy strength...but by the same token, you can do a hypertophy program with compounds
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You can get strength and hypertrophy from a 5x5.
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Originally Posted by Kane
compounds and isolations don't dictate gains...intensity, frequency, rep range, etc. dictate gains
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Second part right...first part wrong. Take squats and leg extensions...or, hell, better yet, take squats and compare them to leg extensions and leg curls done together (both isolation movements). Using the same intensity (% of 1 RM), the same frequency and rep range, etc., which is going to give you bigger legs (and a bigger body)? Squats, of course.
Also when we talk about compounds that involve the arms, everybody seems to forget about triceps. Why do people prefer shoulder presses overall instead of, say, lateral raises? And benching over db flyes? A compound, or multi-joint movement stimulates more muscle overall in a given session, resulting in greater gains, without doing set after set after set after....
Compounds allow your body to function as a unit. They realease more growth hormone. And of course they make you strong depending on how you train. Form follows function. You want to be strong, you have to be strong all over. And, frankly, having a super strong bicep curl doesn't do jack shit for you if you're weak every where else.
I really think, however, that the need to do or not do additional isolations depends on the program and the individual. They are COMPLEMENTARY. But I don't think that compounds should ever be replaced with isolations, unless your going for a John Basedow look.