Good post, Slated.

Also worth mentioning, I think, is that if you can't afford something like Xtend, you may be able to afford just getting the ingedients in bulk, which are readily available, and making your own cocktail. The only real difference being the taste and maybe mixability. That's what I do.

Something else I agree with you on, is the suggestion to try citrulline malate (a component of Xtend) before spending a boatload on an NO product.

But the bottom line is, as Slated stated, if your nutrition is not solidly in place, then you are THROWING away your money on a product like NO2. So, before considering this product or others like it, I would read all the diet info on this board and any where else you care too, and then take the time to ask yourself whether you are really doing all that you can in terms of nutrition.

No product, not even creatine, can take the place of a proper bodybuilding diet. If the diet is in place, then there are many supplements I think are worth looking at before considering NO - ones that actually have some solid science to back them up.

And always keep in mind that if there is a huge guy at your gym or your supplement store that happens to use a product, that doesn't mean that the product had anything to do with his success. A guy that is huge now and who takes NO started down probably started down that road a long time before NO product were ever conceived of.

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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.