Thread: Anavol? & BCAAS
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Old 03-20-2006, 12:37 AM
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What Information do you have on this?
I haven't seen anyone respond so I'll at least throw in my .02 so you'll at least get a response. First, I hate blends, which is what this product is. Here's the ingredients:

Anavol Proprietary Blend: 2600mg
Creatine Alpha-Ketoglutarate
Glutamine Alpha-Ketoglutarate
Citrulline-Malate

Creatine Alpha-Ketoglutarate: AKG acts as a transport molecule and thus enables more creatine to enter muscle cells and be utilized at a quicker rate. The AKG is also used in the same manner for the glutamine.

Just by looking at it, I can say with certainty that the citrulline malate is severely underdosed. I personally don't see any benefit whatsoever with a dosage under 3 grams. I also don't know too much about the AKG transport module. Glutamine alone needs 10-20 grams, and I don't see AKG being so effective that it'll limit the dosage from 20 grams to roughly 1.5 grams. I could be wrong. If it works, it works.

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Would there be a point in taking creatine (ethyl ester) at the same time as anavol?
I don't believe so. Once your creatine stores are maxed, they're maxed. All these new types of creatines do really is have more efficient rates of absorbtion with smaller and smaller amounts of creatine. Basically, instead of 10 grams of creatine mono combined with 50 grams of dextrose, you'll have 2-3 grams of CEE in a glass of water.

If you have CEE, I would just stick to that until it's finished before spending your money on this product.

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Also, would taking BCAAS be beneficial? I was looking at my protien powder and compared it to ingredients found in a BCAA supplement aside Leucine my powder had more mgs than the supplement did.
Absolutely. I personally rank them in my top three must have's along with my protein and creatine. As for the supplement BCAA's you were comparing your protein to, some IMO are underdosed compared to others. For example, ON's brand doesn't hold a candle to Scivation's Xtend. Xtend has 3.5/1.75/1.75 (if memory serves), which is higher if we are measuring by a single serving.

Example:

ON's 100% Whey: 5 grams of BCAA's per serving. Going by a 2:1:1 ratio, that's 2.5/1.25/1.25...

Bulk BCAA's: Same 2:1:1 ratio. I think mine's 4-5 tsp. for around 10 grams, which is 5/2.5/2.5

Whey protein is toted as being fast digesting, but in reality, it's still very slow. They always compare whey to casein when dealing with the fast acting rate of absorbtion. However, this is like comparing a turtle to a snail. (Yes, the turtle is a metaphor for whey ) Supplementing BCAA's is IMO vital when taking preworkout, during workout, and immediately after since it'll shuttle into your muscles a lot faster than it will with whey protein. All the studies I have read on BCAA supplementation have all used an EAA solution, not any form of whey. Just to cover my ass, the rates of absorbtion of whey increase in speed depending on what form of whey you use. For example, whey hydrosylate is of course going to absorb a lot faster than whey isolate, and so on...
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