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Old 03-30-2006, 05:31 AM
EricT EricT is offline
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But you ask should I use just micellar casein alone then? My answer is a definite NO!. The one bad thing about the caseins, including micellar, is that they do not possess any growth factors, such as Insulin like growth factors and transferring growth factors. That is one reason, theoretically of course, whey protein ( especially the CFM) works to grow muscle. Whey has a high level of these growth factors and caseins do not. A 50/50 mixture of micellar casein and whey isolate would be one suggestion.
I haven't gone over this whole thing, but that caught my eye. I know that statement is from Protein Factory....as far as I know, a whey ISOLATE does not contain any of these "growth factors". Except maybe the micro-filtered ones like the CFM (Cross-Flow Microfiltered) mentioned. But not just any isolate.

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20 % Whey ion X
I would recommend against an Ion Exchanged whey. Highest concentration of protein, yes, but it loses a lot of the smaller peptides and quite frankly, I don't think it's worth the extra cost. I would go with a micro-filtered for various reasons. The actual protein difference isn't all that significant, especially considering that there is less potential in the micro-filtered types for the protein to be denatured and it can be a more "complete whey" and perhaps more biologically active. I'm not sure about hydrosolates. I think it's mostly hype based on one rat study and all the technology isn't created equal with the older tecniques heavily damaging the protein.

The idea of most isolates is that they're mostly all protein, but they can contain various amounts of sub-fractions depending on whether they're ion-exchanged (as high as 70% of Beta-lactoglobulin, most allergenic and least beneficial) or micro-filtereds, which can supposedly be made unique according to the manufacturer and the filtering technolodgy used (at least 9 or 10 different techniques).
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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.

Last edited by EricT; 03-30-2006 at 08:08 AM.
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