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Old 04-13-2006, 03:20 PM
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by Dorian Yates
Lol... I'll stick to isolate hands down. It's been a few days since I switched over to the cold filtration and I must say that I didn't feel bloated whatsoever compared to when I had a good amount of concentrate mixed in.

I'm sure there's a million studies out there, each by a different supplement label pimping their products. Dorian Yates approved protein he sells is only casein, not whey isolate, so that's probably why he made it. If he ever comes out with his own line of whey, I'm sure that article will be edited.

Most of us shouldn't let one or two articles skew your views about different types of proteins, especially from competative lines of protein companies. Choose my Yates approved protein over any "whey proteins"..

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Some dairy companies are misleading the consumer by equating solubility with levels of denaturation
Some dairy companies? Which ones? Are they protein manufacturers that have a higher standard? I agree that some small companies that make their protein from other small labs do not have the standards that ON, TP, or other companies that PRIMARILY sell protein do. For instance, I've heard from a few years back that my Costco brand of protein (the whey one, not mine)was slightly off from label claims..Big surprise there, but it makes sense since that company doesn't sell supplements primarily like others do.

If isolates in general are that bad compared to a $4.00 per pound concentrate, then I doubt all the monsters doing (for instance) DC training would settle for the $4 concentrate vs. spending all that money on isolates...Primarily ion exchange. Companies such as protein factory and TP most likely would test those more expensive ways of filtering their protein. If they didn't, it would be too much of a painstaking process to seperate the whey from all those fillers such as lactate and ash with all those advanced methods. You've definately convinced me that ion-exchange is too iffy vs. price. Absolutely, I do not like the idea of spraying chemicals on the protein to blah, blah, blah..Leaving a higher sodium content, ect. But IMO cold or microfiltration is worth the money.

I guess for me it all boils down to results versus "analysis paralysis".. I personally put a lot of stock into pre and post workout nutrition..Above everything else in regards to protein. Now, I've been spending a lot of time in the intensemuscle forum, mainly getting ready for DC training for when I'm healed. Now, there's a lot of protein threads over there that have everyone's ideal pre/post protein guidelines. In most, like mine is now, they use some form of isolate, actually half use ion exchange. The progress over there is unreal, with 2-4 scoops of ion exchange. I know there's a lot of top coaches (Dante, Skip, ect) that prepare bb'ers for contests over there that require people getting ready for shows both on and off season to use isolates. If it did yield a lot less undenatured protein than people think, I do not believe everyone's results would be achieved.

I'll email the tech's with this article from Mr. Yates and see what they have to say.
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