And you're telling people to PM you for routines?

What's there to be confused about? The first article you posted says one thing, the Don Long article says the opposite. I haven't even bothered with the Ronnie Coleman one. Two opposite schools of thought in the same thread. Which is it?

You keep telling people they don't need to do a lot of bicep isolations. That the compound movements and heavy frequent squatting, etc is the key. You even told someone that biceps three times a week was hopeless....and you were on the right track for the most part, imo.

Then you post the Jeff Anderson article that basically agrees with that in spirit although it doesn't go into many specifics. But in the same thread you post something helpful for someone "obsessed with biceps". You're fence sitting.

The triceps thing was a joke. My point is that anyone can throw a bunce of isolations together with multiple rep ranges and sets and then claim that this one is for shape and this one is for that and this one is for that one little fiber that no other exercise will ever hit... Mine was better though cuz it went to 20. Wait a minute, I just thought of an improvement: Mine now goes to 21! This is muscle mag BS.

Don't blame me!

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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.