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Originally Posted by Anuj
although my arms havent grown in terms of inches on Mark's program, they're looking bigger and have become more "dense" if you know what i mean
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Yes. I expect you got some growth. You're dealing with geometry, remember, so sometimes you can see what seems like pretty good size gains before it registers on a tape.
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Originally Posted by Anuj
also, i started this as a "bicep" thread in mind, and decided to throw in different articles regarding biceps.... and sometimes, overtraining on a bodypart might help.. lets take kane's example, he overtrained like mad on his biceps when he started out (or so he says) and now he can lift heavier... me, i never did excess arm work... yet, my arms are big but weak.... when i began lifting i overtraned on my chest and back therefore i have a good chest but a horrible bench...
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You kinda lost me there, but you seem to be saying two different things. You said that Kane overtrained (whatever exactly that means, high volume with multiple sets past failure?) and therefore can "lift heavier". You overtrained on chest but have a weak bench. Overtraining, as you say, on chest and back probably led to your big arms, too. You didn't get a whole lot of strength because you didn't train for strength. Likewise from Kanes post it would seem he was using high volume on his arms which would have stimulated more size and not necessarily led to greatly stronger lifts. Unless you believe, as some do, that a bigger muscle is more able to gain pure strength, regardless of the type of hypertrophy.
Also, your weak arms are purely subjective.
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Originally Posted by Anuj
I put these articles to merely add to the bicep thread... i have already said which policy I believe in and hopefully, i've made myself clear....
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You're contradicting yourself, buddy. You just said that you think overtraining arms is useful for whatever reason. But in anycase posting contradictory messages in the same thread without any explanation is not quite making yourself clear. It would seem more like you are trying to appeal to everyone.
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Originally Posted by Anuj
have you noticed another thing...? when we do full body programs, we do biceps and triceps 3x a week for a total of 12x a month....
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You mean with islolations? If so:
1. Not necessarily. We can choose to skip arms one day, two days, or all days and still be doing "full body".
2. With substantially reduced volume.
You're really comparing apples and oranges when you compare these ultra high volume arm workouts to what someone should do on a full-body or even upper/lower.
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Originally Posted by Anuj
BUT, if i do 2-3 sets of bis + tris every alternate day, i'll be good to go...
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As opposed to 16 sets like the Long article? :05:
I'm not trying to give you a hard time, I'm just trying to make some sense. I'm sure you'll set me straight
