I was looking for those but couldnt find the post. I did see one post called Bill Stars 5x5 what do you think about that... if you could pm me the links of the other programs i would like to take a look. I did look at your page and trying to see if i can incompass that into the 5x5. I may just switch to your work out its what i do anyways for the most part, And getting a Great work out from it.