Stonew0rrior, I defitnitely know where you are coming from. That's why most of us didn't offer up a routine....and to be fair all you did was give a list of exercises. It's not your fault if someone goes in half cocked.

Jags, that is kind of what people are getting at. If you really want to learn to lift weights then you would already have done a lot of research and come to us with more specific questions and ideas of what you want to do.

Sometimes people use the work trolling not only to signify malicious people trying to upset members but also when people come on and beg for help without any specific questions and then disappear (or something like that).

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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.