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Originally Posted by iceman
Last summer I bulked up from 145 to 165 in two months only on Cell Tech and Nitrotech,
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I'll start with a different tact. I'm assuming that when you gained weight last summer that Cell Tech and Nitrotech weren't the only things you were consuming. Let's say that maybe actual food and a workout routine had something to do with it. Seeing that you expected to automatically lose the weight upon stopping the supplements it seems like you were giving the supplements a lot more credit then they were due. Which seems to be an epidemic.
There are very, very few supplements which you can take and then guarantee they had a significant contibution to your muscle gain. If someone tells you "I got big on this or that" they are full of shit. They don't know that nor can they prove it. Even when you can NOTICE the immediate effects of a supplement....when you can "FEEL" them you still can't know how significant a contribution they made to your muscle gain unless perhaps that gain is just extraordinary and unexpected, which just doesn't seem to happen. Sorry if this is stepping on anyone's toes.
Now, I am NOT saying that there aren't many beneficial supplements. And there are a few tried and trusted standbys, like creatine, that have mountains of scientific evidence and real-world use to back them up. But at the end of the day it's a leap of faith. I see people gaining weight or putting weight on the bar and going "I'm taking this and I can't believe the results" and all the while I'm sitting back going "I've done that same thing taking nothing...".
So if you don't want to spend money on hype the best thing you can do is educate yourself. You asked experienced people so that's a good first step. You also have to do your own reasearch to help you come to some conclusions. Take all that evidence and make an educated guess as to what will be best. Even if you don't have a limited budget, I assume you know the value of a dollar.
My educated guess is, for now, the same as 0311's. No to NO. Yes to creatine and protein. As for splurging, right now the best I can recommend is BCAA's and Citruline Malate instead of an NO product.