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Old 06-07-2006, 10:36 AM
EricT EricT is offline
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I do both quite often and to tell you the truth I don't get very sore from any of it. But I don't do "volume" very much and I would never wait and entire week before hitting my back again! My biceps don't have much trouble recovering from whatever I throw at them even when I throw in more isolations than usual.


There may be something to what you're saying but I could apply an alternate argument. If you worry about soreness and the fatigue and so you use a grip that keeps your biceps away form a position of full contraction then you're not conditioning your biceps fully and so guaranteeing more fatique. But we could go around and around.


As for Dorian and his injury, as I said I'm not arguing that. I've never had a bicep tear and I don't claim to know what sort of grip may lead to injury. I use a pronated grip during rows becasue it has been suggested to me by people I trust that this is the way to go. But I would have done it anyway because it works better for me. I think my central point is that using a certain grip is not going to give you a better or worse workout. Injury potential is a whole nother ballpark. For me, the heavier I go the better I grow. I try to balance this with what I've heard about certain practices but I'm not going to kid myself and say "if i use a pronated grip that'll take the biceps out in some sense or other and It'll work better.


Whatever movemen't you do theres going to be a limiting factor. The weakest point in the chain. You can't make that disappear. To me, that link being as strong as possible makes sense. I guess we find the limits of those links in our chains when certain things, although, allowing us to lift heavier, results in injury. But to be truthful the ONLY argument I have ever heard in terms of suppination on rows causing injury is that Dorian hurt himself. That is unless I've forgotten other things.


If anybody has any actual reason why this may be the case other than "Dorian Yates tore his bicep" I'd love to hear it. Just for curiosity if nothing else. I've done rows both ways in the past and had no problems with my elbows nor felt like I was going to injure myself. But that doens't mean anything. Other people have had different experiences.
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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.

Last edited by EricT; 06-07-2006 at 10:44 AM.
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