When I ran MOHN alone, I had no problems, when I ran M1T alone, not much of any sides other than lethergy, but hell Methyl dien was good stuff as far as lean gains, but it sucked. One thing I noticed tho that, it made me a peter north junior, I was cuming by gallons, even tho snake(anaconda after eating perennial immortalis) was limp in the beginning it sure was spitting out a lot of venom