This is getting ridiculous. You have been told all this time and time again. You have also been told that what you need to know nurtrition wise is in the stickies. Yet we keep revisiting the SAME QUESTIONS.

I doubt there are really that many guys at the Y who are HUGE and eat like crap and don't eat much etc. And when you say they are big...do you mean big as in lots of donuts big? Regardless you can't get hugely fat without taking in a lot of calories and likewise you can't get hugely muscled without doing the same thing. They are BOTH anabolic states. But there needs to be a proper combo of macronutrients and not rely on a whole lot of empty calories (which is one good way to get fat). It's all about nutrient partitioning.

As far as the exercises you are doing, you do NOT need to add more exercisese. One big mistake beginners do is TOO MANY EXERCISES. As I told you before you should be concentration on improvement on the big compound movements like squat, deadlift, bench, rows.

Worrying about proportion and putting in a bunch of beach exercises (i.e. isolation movements) is NOT going to improve your results. IMO, most extra exercises you choose should be aimed at strengthening the supporting muscles and prime movers to further facilitate those BIG COMPOUNDS. This is what is going to put on the most muscle...provided you eat enough.

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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.