Negative. The only thing I use is creatine, and whey protein. I've used andro in the past, but not any longer. I assume you refering to juice when you say gear. I'm not here to judge anyone. I have my personal feelings about it. But, again I'm not here to judge, or badger anyone. Lifting weights has become a part of my life. It's my only real hobby that I have. It's the only thing that I know that you can see the results of your hard work everyday when you look in the mirror. Like I said, I stumbled across this forum. I hope to continue to learn. This site can be a tool for me, as it is with others.