Hey Eric3237 I think your hitting the nail on the head, No I have not been keeping a log, I am going to search the site and see what entries I should be making in a log, sitting here thinking about what your saying, I can see I don't have a real direction or plan in place, so if I am going to get serious I'd better get serious. good advice...I started eating smaller meals and adding more of them thru the day the afternoon one around 3 PM I had to force my self to drink but I think can get used to it once I find the right things to eat that don't make me feel like I am going to explode. i am gong to start this tomorrow morning, I will post in a week or so. Thanks I really appreciate the response.