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Old 08-11-2006, 06:39 PM
EricT EricT is offline
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Originally Posted by Wanting
The incline is probably 45 degrees. I might of been able to get a little more weight, but my shoulders are pretty weak I don't train them much cause they usually kill after words till the point where it hurts just letting them hang down.
Oh I wasn't downing your weight, bro! Just looking at ways to help you get the most out of it. 45 degrees is standard for most benches but personally I think anything over 20-30 degrees if not less is a waste. You're getting more and more shoulder into it but in a weakened position. Hence my proposal of doing militaries instead. Do your shoulders bother you alot on overhead stuff too, our just the inclines?

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Are bentover rows more beneficial than deadlifts? Personally I like bentover rows more, for deadlifts I find it hard to keep my back straight.
I wouldn't directly compare them and rows are certainly not more beneficial. But if you do squats thrice a week and deadlifts twice something will have to give. And if you find it hard to keep your back straight as it is then you will be a hurtin puppy. If you can't keep your back straight on deads (which means slightly arched) then you need to use less weight. If you do the deads on wednesday you can still ramp up to a max set and squats will be "light". Check out this writeup by Madcow:

http://www.geocities.com/elitemadcow...Linear_5x5.htm

Also, may be able to incorporate something else for lower back...low volume and higher reps to help stengthen it.
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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.
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