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Old 08-13-2006, 08:33 AM
EricT EricT is offline
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Yes. People have different opinions on it. But the prevailing opinion is that milk is gonna slow down gastric emptying a great deal...the casein curdles in the stomach after all. The reason you can get away with all those high GI carbs (malto is high GI too) is becaused after your workout for a short time your muscles are primed to take on nutrients and are more insulin senstitive. But you need to get everything through the stomach and absorbed as quickly as possible to take advantage of that window of oppurtunity. So either you want a big dilute shake IN WATER with all your whey and carbs or you can take your carbs first with water and the your whey second. Either way you don't want slow digesting proteins and you don't want fat.

You slow down digestion too much and you can end up dumping all that sugar into your bloodstream after it's too late for you muscle to have priority...you get a huge insulin spike at that time and you can guess what happens. PLUS milk causes it's own insulin spike later on INDEPENDENT of it's sugar content. I don't think that's a good recipe. Is that what's causing your fat gain? I don't know. But it could be adding to it.

As far as the amount of carbs in that shake I think you're on the right track but a good idea is to go by how you feel. You should be re-energized somewhat or at least maintain your energy levels. If 45 minutes to an hour later you feel an irresistable need to sleep or feel sluggish and weak...that may be a clue to cut back on the carbs. Personally I think a pretty good rule of thumb is about .5 gram of carbs for every pound of LEAN body weight.
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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.
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