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Originally Posted by Eric3237
Well, that would work. Or, at least is would work in giving you lots of endurance for the weight work. Some of that strength endurance would spill over into MMA, BUT I don't think it's the ultimate of CONDITIONING. So if this is really about MMA my only thought would be not to put all your eggs in one basket.
I'm wondering what happened to "complexes"...the Alwyn Cosgrove article?
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Nothing ever happened to it. I was just suggesting a different type of workout that would also work on a type of endurance. It would be interesting to try and work in a cycle of S-E and Complexes. I find they both have equal merits on the ability to build up endurance.
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Originally Posted by Eric3237
Now the above is about working with as much weight as possible in any particular movement WHILE training strength endurance, rather than doing the whole high reps thing. In complexes you use one weight for an entire complex. So maybe not so good for maximal strength endurance. BUT the body tends to adapt in very specific ways to any demand put on it. One thing to always keep in mind is what actually goes on in the ring. Complexes, putting weight aside, will more closely mimic the demands of the sport. So it's something I would consider using also
You don't do a movement for a little while, rest for 30 seconds, then repeat. Instead, you move your body through many different planes and use many different dynamics. And this may be quite continuous. Your body has to be conditioned as a unit. I mean, you could stand up for a while where your moving around throwing punches, knees, kicks, whatever. Constants movement couple with ballistic, peak power movements. Then you could be on the ground where overall strength endurance of the entire body is necessary plus dynamic movements...this all going on continuously without a break for a lot longer than a low rep set.
Yes, I agree that this type of strength endurance training will be very useful. And, sure you may get rest periods down to 20 secs or so. But 20 sec is a lot longer rest than you get in a round unless you plan on taking a knee. I'm not downing the idea. Like I said I think it will be useful. I'm only saying it has it's drawbacks.
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I think with the S-E, it's more of an explosive workout so that in a match you can save some energy and then explode a couple of times in a fight and rest. In a competition you will have times to break and gather yourself, stall in the clinch, on the ground in guard, when a ref. breaks it up, yes it my not be 20 seconds but you also are not trying to bench or clean and press your opponent.
Yet again, I definitely see what your saying and agree with the different styles of training that would be generated for the Complexes and S-E.
In that sense, just S-E does have drawbacks but most workout concentrate on one thing more than another, but now we are jumping into the realm of what a person's goals are and what they want to achieve.
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Originally Posted by Eric3237
Also, I would think about choosing exercises that more closely mimic the demands of the sport. I've noticed that the "sample routines" on stuff like this still pretty much look like what any weight trainer would choose except maybe with a clean and jerk or something. Again, SAID principal. And core strength has GOT to be the number on priority. Especially unilateral training, standing exercises, and exercise done on a unstable plane. Last time I checked you couldn't get your opponent to stand still in front of you while you lifted him up.
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True, I think trying to get more core and Olympic/dynamic movements in there could aid more. But you also have to remember that you are also training in martial arts and this will help in combining your strength with movements to help control the situation. Also, I would add plyometrics to a workout like this to help fill in some of the gaps and make sure I use some rubber bands for a type of resistance.