its funny, for me the only reasons I can think of that I ever "look" soft is that I'm either fat, or I am very depleated so my muscles arent at the optimal hardness.

Now coming from a fat stand point, I can see how dairy can be a bad choice for the already obese. but we are talking about trained athleates, so it stands to reason that dairy should have no direct corelation to glycogen stores, unless we are talking about using it post workout, which would lead to shitty glycogen uptake as discussed in the other thread.

all in all it comes down to how your body reacts Phreaknite.

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