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Old 10-07-2006, 08:43 AM
EricT EricT is offline
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Mark, you must have the idea that I will run and hide as soon as 0311 enters the picture

Too bad there are other people with their own experience to draw from and their own opinions .

I still disagree. First of all the idea that you would overtrain I agree is riduculous. But I don't know what boot camp has to do with what Kurt is doing OR what overtraining has to do with it. Were you guys running a 5x5? Overtraining happens over a long period of time. 0311 knows that overreaching happens over a short period.

How many times do I have to point out that this is single factor, linear progression, plain old supercompensation? It ain't about building up fatigue and pullups are not like doing some dumbell laterals. For a whole lot of people lactic acid would hardly enter the picture. There are people here who can only do one.

This shit is about progression over time. Kurt has goals to meet in terms of lifts and this is, at it's heart, a strength routine. As far as bodybuilder mentality, doing pullups in this IS bodybuilder mentality. Saying that all the pullups in the world won't matter is like saying having a sprint in the middle of the workout won't matter. Of COURSE it will.

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Originally Posted by 0311
I'll point out again that it's a "bodybuilder's mentality" to worry about overtraining in regards to volume, recovery, or a little lactic acid in the middle of your set.
Huh? Although bodybuilder's do talk about overtraining needlessly it is, from what I've seen, the bbr's mentality to look at EACH and EVERY workout as the whole point of the thing. The more is always better mentality. It is the bodybuilder's mentality to worry about his lats and so "add" to an established program to bring them up.

But the whole point of THIS thing is progression over a long string of workouts. How many actual bodybuilders think that way? Very few. Hell progression has largely went out the window and it's more about "variety". The guy who can run this for maybe eight weeks is going to have better success than the one who fucks with it and runs it for six. It is endlessly entertaining to me how we say "don't fuck with the program" but then constantly come up with exceptions based on meaningless criteria. We are suffering from information overload. Time for elimination. Don't fuck with it means don't fuck with it. Take out all the stuff that applies to different situations or different people and think about what you want to get out of the program. Set a goal and eliminate anything that doesn't pertain to reaching that goal.
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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.
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