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Originally Posted by TALO
Maybe a stupid question; but, doesn't whole milk have more fat and less protein then 2% or even skim ?
So if your drinking whole milk , of course your going to put on weight, but how much of that is fat ?
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That's like saying, "Get the 92% lean beef because the 85% lean makes a huge difference and it'll give you a spare tire!"
I don't understand why people get too obsessive with this? I haven't put on IMO any fat drinking a half gallon, and every once a while a whole gallon per day of whole milk.
BTW, I don't drink an entire gallon every single day since I started powerlifting either! I certainly try to always get in as much as my wallet allows on training days, less of course when I'm not training. It's a no-brainer..
For me, it's benefits are two fold:
1) Sometimes I don't eat enough in a day or feel too full to forcefeed any more food, so I drink it instead between meals to keep my protein/calories a lot higher.
2) It's a plateau buster. If you aren't gaining weight, or plateaued strength wise, whole milk IS INDEED the cure IMO. It's never let me down!
People all over these forums are way to "nit picky" when it comes to this. Kinda sounds like "if you eat fat, you'll get fat" which is far from the case. I highly recommend it to anyone because of the content of their posts asking for help. Mainly, "I'm not growing", or "I'm stuck at my rep max". "I've fallen and I can't get up". In most of these cases, it's a severe lack of calories, and I don't care what the fuck they think their daily caloric levels are at..They're wrong.
You need calories to grow. Period. The protein content in whole milk is the same as skim milk. The only difference is extra amounts of fats, which increases the overall calories. 9/10 of the people "bodybuilding" is severely UNDERSHOOTING or shall I say, undereating. They 'think' they're around 3000 cals per day (which isn't shit), but in reality, it's more like 2200 or something.
Joe the bodybuilder probably shouldn't be drinking too much milk AT ALL when he's planning on a comp. But, for someone looking for strength OR MASS gain, whole milk is IMO a super way to drive up your cals IMO.
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Originally Posted by Kelley Baggett
So Where Do People Screw Up The Most?
Shit or Get Off the Pot
Probably THE one simple thing that causes more people to screw up and spin their wheels is diet. Regardless of how you definite it, the reality is, MANY people think they are hardgainers or don’t build the muscle they could because they eat like birds. That’s mainly what I wanna talk about today. [hint: clean bulk]
Big Muscles Need Big Nutrition
At it's most basic foundation increased size requires increased energy intake. Big muscles require big nutrition and big nutrition requires big eating. Big eating is difficult when your obsessed with maintaining the lowest possible body-fat percentage and your diet revolves around boiled chicken breasts, tuna, and egg whites. Why do you think you never see powerlifters, football players, or throwing athletes that have difficulty putting on body-mass?
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In my situation, I know for a fact that I really didn't put on any fat. If you add up the amount of weeks (17) it took me to progressively increase from 244 to 256 lbs, it comes out to about a pound and a half per week. Considering that I do in fact eat VERY clean (just a lot of it), and workout like an animal (see previous weights) I know it's mostly muscle.
A normal day for me eating wise:
3:30 am: 5 egg whites, 4-5 whole eggs, oatmeal (plain), water, multi
5:00 am: Whole milk
6:00 am: Bowl of whole wheat spaghetti w/ meat sauce (lots of meat too!) Also lots of broccoli
7:30 am: 2 scoops whey, 2 tbsp flax, water
8:30 am: Tall glass of *gulp* whole milk
10:00 am: Bowl of whole wheat spaghetti w/ lots of meat sauce, broccoli
12:00 pm: 2 scoops whey, 2 tbsp flax, water
1:00 pm: Whole milk
3:00 pm: Another round of spaghetti/meat/broccoli
5:00 pm: 1 scoop whey, 50 grams of oatmeal (plain) just before I leave work for my drive home. Sorta my preworkout meal.
6:15 pm: 1 scoop waxy maize, 3 scoops EAA's, ect
WORKOUT (6:30 - around 8 pm)
8 pm: PWO: 2 scoops waxy maize, 4 grams CEE
8:15 pm: 3 scoops whey protein, water
9:00 pm: PPWO: Finish off spaghetti w/ meat
10:30 - 11 pm Prebed: Casein protein, flax oil
Yup, don't get much sleep. This is a usual example of when I have a DAY SHIFT at work. Most of the time I'm sneaking in more whole milk throughout the day, but I'm not posting that.
For food selection, my diet is based off of some type of meat. This example was how I chose to cook 1-2 pounds of ground beef and eat it. Tomorrow I could feature 5 boiled chicken breasts w/ potatoes and veggies or something else. Whatever meat I choose, it gets cooked the night before and stored in tupperware for me to chip away during the day. I also always loosely stick to PRO/FAT and PRO/CARB alternating throughout the day.
With all that in mind, for a 256 pound fellow, I'm happy. I don't know if the above schedule is 100% what I did in regards to exact times, but it's close.