Maddax, did you bother to take the time to look though the other threads. You think people are being paid here to do all the "work" for newbie lifters. Lots of people went out of their way to post very helpful and infromative things for jags. He never indicated that he did any of the research or reading that people pointed hime to. He never answered any of the questions about his training. He never responded to an answer except to ask more questions or for more answers, i.e. "who do I listen to". He has been spoon fed over and over and the reason people have stopped helping is he doesn't seem to want to do his part. You know "help me help you"? No one owes him an apology.

I'd suggest you go ahead an answer his question if you want to experience it for yourself. BTW, in case I am missing something what is OP? Maybe you were kidding and forgot you smilies. If not I would suggest not to jump to judgement or give in to "knee jerk reactions" before you consider what is going on.

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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.