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Training someone in the gym seeing what they're doing is one thing. Training them over the internet is another. You have to take their word for a lot of things you shouldn't take their word for.
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Absolutely! I'll use myself as an example. When I maxed out on flat bench last Wednesday, I had a "5 lb spot" to get up 405 lbs. How many "internet nazis" would go ahead and tell their trainer, "I finally got it!" Now you're screwed as your trainer (if he's a good one) will be slightly more aggressive with your training and poundages to continue driving up those weights. Even powerlifting-wise, if I lied, now my speed bench just got bumped up! Granted my max is only 10 pounds less than that, but how the fuck would I realistically go out and try to best my previous max (when it really wasn't my max to begin with).
If someone even touches the bar, it doesn't count. Period.
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Given all this I don't think there is a need to jump to bad recovery and overtraining and therefore these complicated prescriptions of what one beginner should do as opposed to another.
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I agree. Especially in bodybuilding circles, the word "overtraining" has become an EXCUSE to train like a pussy more than anything else.
I could go on another forum where everyone and their mother does a 5 day split and ask them how they came up with resting exactly 5-7 days before they're recovered. More often than not, they'll either say:
- Because I'm not sore anymore..
- I 'feel' stronger after exactly 5-7 days..
- Every professional waits 5-7 days, and they're big! (my favorite)
- Anything sooner and you'll OVERTRAIN.
Now the fun part is when I ask why OLY trainees train the A2G squat up to 15 + times a week and not "overtrain". Can you guess what their answer is?? -> Yeah, but they're olympians... Here's the kicker!.. Now
they say that their Olympians and that's why they don't overtrain. Well, now I ask why they do a 5 day split even though they are natural and for the most part beginners. Why train like a PROFESSIONAL bodybuilder whose on the sauce?!
Now, most of them know that's bullshit, but they're too afraid to try out anything more than a 5 day split because it's popular with the pro's (whose supplement cabinet is located in the refrigerator!
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Overtraining almost has a cult following.
I was searching around looking at different forums when I found this gem. Typical split dominated forum. Someone posted the "death of modern bb'ing". There's a ton of views, and only one person responds by saying it's wrong!
Yet no proof otherwise is given.
THREAD Funny part is just below that thread is a "everyone post your split"