Yes, most likely those kids if he is not exagerating had preexesting kidney problems. OR, they simply had elevated kidney values which MANY doctors insist on believing point to kidney problems or failure when in fact it just points to properly functioning kidneys. For creatinine you can look at the levels of a really muscular person and see huge levels even when they don't take creatine.

I don't want to put down your doctor. He's probably doing what he thinks is right. But one doctor getting two kids A YEAR from creatine...not only does it go against the fact that there are no reported cases of kidney failure from creatine in otherwise healthy persons, it is simply statistically improbable. If he had that many there must be A LOT of cases. Apparently nobody is reporting them? Curious. The book with the loading suggestion was just that: a book. An opinion. Another book (newer) is just as likely to say the opposite. The last info I saw there was two documented cases of kidney damage from creatine use. No info as to dosage or pre-existing kidney problems. There are other individual cases of side-effects.

The jury is still out and it simply hasn't been around long enough. But enough of ANYTHING can hurt you and people have a tendency to overdo sups....the more is better thing.

There is no clinical evidence backing up creatine loading phases. The only difference is that you would reach saturation levels more quickly but either way you'll reach the same level and then maintain that level easily with normal doses. There was never any real reason to load or cycle except that bodybuilders were used to doing that. Certainly nothing wrong with stopping creatine sometimes but likewise there is not evidence that this is needed or that creatine will shut down normal production in the body after prolonged use.

The kidney tests are not a bad idea but a regular panel just gets a baseline value. Elevated levels in and of themselves do not automatically mean kidney disease but may call far further testing. Chances are that after you went on creatine for a while something may be elevated above baseline and to your doctor that would be a panic button "proving" that creatine was hurting your kidneys when in fact it proves nothing of the sort.

I would say don't worry about it. I've been on creatine for probably 7 years in which time I've gotten kidney values taken MANY times with no problems.

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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.