Joker, btw, after I posted all this stuff I realized that I forgot to say that I don't think you need to take creatine if you don't feel comfortable with it. I think it helps a lot and there are a lot of potential benefits to it but in the end it's a supplement.This was all just to speak to the information about it being so dangerous so that your decision would be based on more than one opinion. I wanted to say that because I realized that it may look like I am pounding my viewpoint on using creatine in the dirt which is not my intention .

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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.