J-Bull, if you're not taking true steroids, none of these meatheads are gonna help you out. It's like asking a heroin junkie advice about taking aspirin. Crabs in a bucket man. Not all of us are down with having prostate cancer and going bald at 40. You just gotta find somebody that knows their shit that's not a dick. You probably are better off taking it with some real juice. My experience with Dbol, it's more like a hormone enhancement, as opposed to a testosterone enhancement, so if you take it, make sure to get a good anti-aromatase (anti-estrogen) supplement to take with it. Chrysin and Tribex is good over the counter stuff, Keep up with the anti-aromatase after the fact for at least a month too.