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Old 12-13-2006, 07:50 PM
EricT EricT is offline
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Before this gets out of hand...

Anuj, when gave you my simple advice about the deadlift on wednesday and the rest-pausing I wasn't going to get into all the programming stuff. When you ask WHY it should really be obvious to you at this point. It really should. So it waited for someone else to answer. So Kane and 0311 not only answer but 0311 went out of his way to dissect what you were doing. He's really trying to help so I was a little surprised that all of this anymosity came out.

Bro, you know good and well that there is not much difference in what he said to you and what I've said to you time and time again. So why is he strong-arming you and why is it about ego or being defensive if it's not with me? Theres no call for any of this stuff and now 0311's pissed and your pissed and lets all take a deep cleansing breath and utter some affirmations .

To be honest my first thought was to say to just do the basic rippletoe like you mentioned and when you get to your maxes if you need to work on you weaknesses then do a program designed to do that. A full body program is NOT a place to address you hams or any other percieved weakness. Especially something out of Practical Programming. But I didn't bother to get into it.

Then, lo and behold, 0311 said the same exact thing. Now if I had said it to begin with you may not have listened but you would not have been offended. Correct?

If you can progress on these fullbody plans by simple progression of the core movements then do it. If you need to address weaknesses, add volume, or concentrate more on hypertrophy, then do that. But not both at the same time. It doesn't work because that's not how it works. You've got a lot of little birdies singing in your ear and truthfully, sooner or later, you need to ask some of those birdies, "how much did you add to your big three this year?" if you want to think about strength.

On the pullup thing I've gotten into it with people who say I can only do one pullup so I don't do pullups. That's like saying I can only run one mile so I don't run. Or they use a "pullup machine" so I say, wtf, you in rehab? 4X10 pulldowns are glaringly out of place in that program. It doesn't make any sense. Doing deads on monday just because you did it that similar in DC doesn't make sense here. The only things that make sense here are those things that allow you to lift the heaviest, gives you the best recovery, and directly influences your ability to progress on the core lifts.

That would even mean that arms should not be done AT ALL if they proved to be a detriment. That is why arm work is called accessory work. It's like a pair of earrings or a nice Guchi bag

I don't want to be an arbitrator here, but all I can see is a lot of good intentions from everybody.
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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.
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