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Old 12-19-2006, 09:19 AM
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rather than jumping straight into barbells and overloading themselves and hurting themselves because they aren't stable and haven't been progressed into it.
See, the problem is that if they rely on learning with a machine which has an fixed plane of motion, then they definately won't have the stability to use free weights... That's the heart of the debate.

My vote's for using free weight multi-joint compound exercises, zero isolations, and minimal machines. You cannot expect someone to learn how to squat by doing it on a leg press machine or bench press on an hammer strength. I also can say with a fair level of certainty that only a small percentage of lifters ever started out with a personal trainer teaching them. I know a lot of the top trainers, such as Glenn Pendlay for example, who start kids as young as 12 out with free weight compounds only. Of course there's very minimal weight involved. Olympic coaches are ALL prime examples of this line of thinking. Most kids, according to Glenn, need to start training around 12 years old latest.

And I understand everyone's talking about the 18-20 year old newbies, but if these kids start with compounds, I fail to see why grown men need to be treated like they're made out of paper mache.
Matter of fact, I just went on a female website where they have all their women doing free weights exclusively as well. LOL.

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rather than jumping straight into barbells and overloading themselves and hurting themselves because they aren't stable and haven't been progressed into it.
Even the experianced guys drop a barbell once in a while.
If a neophyte doesn't possess the mental skills necessary to get a spotter for an upcoming iffy set, then "break a leg". I've yet to see anyone bite off more than they can chew.. I can see experienced guys being more prone to injury from the heavier weight vs. a newbie with a hundred pounds on the bar. From what I've experienced, newbie's rarely get involved with heavy (for them) weights because they're just not comfortable. But, they're also not made out of glass either. If they fail on something like the bench press with 135 on the bar, I don't think their chest would cave in while they're asking for some help.
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Last edited by Darkhorse; 12-19-2006 at 10:06 AM.
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