The how to bulk article covers Post Workout. Remember if your talking pre and post you would take those numbers and divide it between the two, there or abouts.

I love the cit malate too. The only dif is I'd actually recommend 3 to 4 grams pre workout if you really won't to feel a pop. If less works for you though....but in my experience anything less than 3 doesn't help much.

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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.