Gotcha, grape juice works good too. Malto and dex will be a little better. My reading comprehension must be getting very bad

BTW, if someone is taking in 30 grams carbs for IMMEDIATELY pre (about 15 minutes prior), then it's probably not necessary to go as high as 50 to 80 for post.

In general if your taking in the high GI carbs for PRE you want to subract that amount from what you would normally do for post. Think of it as 50 to 80 grams AROUND the wokout.

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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.