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Old 01-08-2007, 12:39 PM
EricT EricT is offline
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TALO, could you list out the whole program the way you'd planned it? Cuz, lol, I'm thoroughly confused. Is this the program from the first page of the DFT sticky? If so if that was the ME day what's the other day? It looks like an RE day to me.

From what I can see the RE day, the day with your JS rows, is primarily straight sets but whether you ramp them or not it would make no sense to fool around with changing it up.

Then on ME days it gives you the option of going for whatever maxes, etc. I think Kane and I are talking about two different days. However, again, what I don't see is using sets across as a "back off". If you're ragged as hell from monday, I don't get it. And it's not about being able to get your real maximums so if your tired then do something else. You'll never be hitting anything but a max relative to this program and that's all you need to do.

I hope you don't mind I'm trying to make sense of this. It shoud provide some benefit.

Finding 5RM harder (i.e. more taxing) than 5x5 sets accross is a first to me. I can do maxes all day compared to that. Heck, may as well use maxes for loading weeks and the higher volume for deloading...more intensity, for me, does not automaticall mean more taxing. Not when your talking one heavy set. That heavy set is only relative max based on what is left in you after what comes before it. And even then it's more taxing than to try finding a truer 5RM where your work up to it carefully. Which of course you shouldn't do in the context of preparing for a program or anything. That's what it's like in my experience.

The only thing I can think, Kane, is that when you say backing off you mean really backing off . Doing maxes is a very good way to bring up your strength or to maintain neural drive during something else but 5x5 sets accross provide a very profound stimulus and will definitely spur hugh strength gains in itself.

So what happened to this:

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Originally Posted by Matt Reynolds
Progressive Overload is absolutely imperative in every exercise, making sure that load or reps are increased, or that rest periods are decreased to keep intensity high (during loading phases).
That sounds like what you need to know. I don't understand what all the "how you feel" talk is about. Either you can handle the frequency and loading or you can't. Seems to me if you can't then a shorter loading period would be in order and then next time try for a longer.

The only thing I can think is that when you say backing off you mean really backing off. Doing maxes is a very good way to bring up your strength or to maintain neural drive during something else but 5x5 sets accross provide a very profound stimulus and will definitely spur hugh strength gains in itself.

I'm sure 0311 will come in here and show me the errors in my thinking. But momma didn't raise no fool either
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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.
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