^^ dude all trib is the same. Check the extraction of saponins, if the numbers match, its the same.

Proven by who?

You will be hard pressed to find a "natty test booster" thats trib based that will do anything more then increase libido.

That being said, there are a few goodones,Check out the NHA stack by designer supps, powerful by usp labs. I've used both and liked them for strength gains, dont expect much by way of mass though.

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