I kinda adlibbed some of those comments in yellow to make it easier to read
I like these roundtables a lot because it's really useful to get these different viewpoints from guys who are really students of this stuff and at least try not to slant their viewpoints based simply on "pretty science".
Hrdgain, I like Aragon too. I posted his "Myths Under the Microscope" articles here and there is a link to them along with another atricle about the glycemic index I am going to read. The myths articles are well worth reading, IMO.
Dave, I never believed much in the fruit thing to tell the truth but that gave me some more concrete info to go on. You know on the whole glycemic index thing one thing I had mentioned also in the Glycemic Index sticky is the difference between glycemic impact and glycemic load.
It is important for people to realize that glycemic impact is measured by using 50 grams of carbohydrates with a given food. No matter how much of that food it takes. So you'll see carrots have a "high" glycemic index but what is not realized is that it takes about TWO POUNDS of carrots to make 50 grams of carbs, lol. That was the example that sticks in my mind. The glycemic LOAD of ONE carrot or TWO is minuscule to the point of absurdity in comparison. Thats off subject as far as corn syrup vs. fruit, I know but it just put me in mind of it.
On coffee I actually had a doctor tell me he thought there was no way I would ever get off it, after he found out I've been drinking it since I was four!