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Old 04-20-2005, 10:12 AM
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Angry Returned from Anger Management

Okay guys...just got back from anger management, I'm okay now.

The reason I got a bit ticked off, is because when someone starts talking about something being fixed, then they are talking about the integrity of the atheletes and the sport they compete in. If we were talking about some greasy bastards that have been associated with dirty business in the past, well fine, but we aren't. There is nothing in the past of any of the men you mentioned (Lidell, Couture, White or Zuffa) that would indicate any reason to make such an accusation/suggestion. So with no reason to even suggest it, why? To be a dick? I can't think of any other reason.

I mean, when Don King's name comes up in regards to fixed judges, bleeding fighters dry of their $$$, or tax evasion, it's believable, because he's one of the greasiest bastards alive. I just do not see any justification in suggesting that type of behavior without justifiable cause. From what I've read, your "justifiable cause" is that they did it out of pure greed, to make more $$$ for a rubber match. I already pointed out that Randy agreeing to get the sh*t knocked out of him in less than 3 minutes absolutely blows that theory out of the water. If you want to hype the need for a third fight, you do not have one guy destroyed one sidedly in the first round. You also don't allow a guy to foul you with a serious injury to set up your loss.

I've been following blood sports since I was 6 years old, and not once can I think of any fight ever being fixed in the way you are describing. That is why I used the word "ignorant". I did not mean it in the sense that you (any of you) are stupid people. I meant that the theory you were proposing was based on a very vague/weak/ignorant concept. It wasn't meant to be offensive (any more than you meant to be offensive by accusing 4 honorable guys of being leaches that would rip off millions of PPV watchers out of pure greed.)

There is one final point I didn't include in my last post, that AGAIN would make your theory seem rather unplausable...Chuck & Randy were the coaches for the reality show The Ultimate Fighter. They were paid well for it, and they are going to be paid more next season, because of the sucess of the show. They will be returning as coaches again. Don't you think that taking a vicious 2:30 second KO has hurt Couture's rep for the show? Last season these guys were labled as "Two of the greatest fighters in the UFC" and Randy was introduced as "One of the greatest fighters ever" not currently, not in the UFC exclusively, one the greatest fighters to ever live on our planet. Do you really think they would fix it so he got smoked and KTFO in the first round, as some sort of a way to get money? That's just ridiculous dude.

You said that I can not prove my point. You also said that you cannot prove yours. Therefor you somehow come to the conclusion that either is viable. That's fine, if we throw out "reason". As a human being you are suppose to be able to weight a situation and use reason to figure out if something is far, far, far (in this case, quite far) more likely than not. In this case, there is absolutely no grounds for reasonable doubt, besides a very pessimistic/borderling paranoid pessimistic view of the world. It is based on absolutely nothing within reality. If it were, you'd have been able to give me the 2 examples I asked for. I'll lower the bar again. Give me one example in the history of mankind where the circumstances you suggest have happened.

*Heading back to Anger Management thanks 2 U*

Raven
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