^^^Great points hardgain. I was going to bring something like that up but I didn't feel like getting into a big thing about what this guy should do or that guy...

You're absolutely right. It doesn't have to be a sprint and the time you do it for would depend on your fitness level. OF COURSE running for miles at low intensity would take a toll on your the joints of an obese person, probably as bad an some beginner level interval running. But if you use machines that have no impact it makes it a moot point. And like you said you build on the HIIT just like anything else. Your FITNESS level determines what you do, not your weight. Weight loss happens as a result of becoming more fit, yes, but having lost weight is not always an indication of fitness.

And we are talking about degrees of obesity. To me a 250 pound guy may be no real comparison to a morbidly obese 450 pound guy who would start off with diet alone, perhaps being unable to do cardio or HIIT at first.

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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.