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Old 03-12-2007, 01:43 PM
EricT EricT is offline
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Is theis the one:

The Effect of Whey Isolate and Resistance Training on Strength, Body Composition, and Plasma Glutamine

Paul J. Cribb; Andrew D. Williams; Michael F. Carey; Alan Hayes
Full Article Table of Contents for Vol. 16, Iss. 5

Abstract
Different dietary proteins affect whole body protein anabolism and accretion and therefore, have the potential to influence results obtained from resistance training. This study examined the effects of supplementation with two proteins, hydrolyzed whey isolate (WI) and casein (C), on strength, body composition, and plasma glutamine levels during a 10 wk, supervised resistance training program. In a double-blind protocol, 13 male, recreational bodybuilders supplemented their normal diet with either WI or C (1.5 gm/kg body wt/d) for the duration of the program. Strength was assessed by 1-RM in three exercises (barbell bench press, squat, and cable pull-down). Body composition was assessed by dual energy X-ray absorptiometry. Plasma glutamine levels were determined by the enzymatic method with spectrophotometric detection. All assessments occurred in the week before and the week following 10 wk of training. Plasma glutamine levels did not change in either supplement group following the intervention. The WI group achieved a significantly greater gain (P < 0.01) in lean mass than the C group (5.0 ± 0.3 vs. 0.8 ± 0.4 kg for WI and C, respectively) and a significant (P < 0.05) change in fat mass (–1.5 ± 0.5 kg) compared to the C group (+0.2 ± 0.3 kg). The WI group also achieved significantly greater (P < 0.05) improvements in strength compared to the C group in each assessment of strength. When the strength changes were expressed relative to body weight, the WI group still achieved significantly greater (P < 0.05) improvements in strength compared to the C group.


I wish I had known about this. I would have stopped using 1.5 grams per kilo a day of casein and switched to whey hydrosolate. No wonder I'm so fat and weak. j/k


And this proves how hydrolized whey is superior to other whey isolates how? Or for that matter that it is better than any other whey product? Yes, yes, I'm aware of it being so darn easy to digest since it's broken down into peptides. Great news for infants.

Anyway, hydrolized whey suppliers don't go around saying it's better than casein they say it's better than other whey products. The study they most often mention is a couple done on rats that had been starved for 3 days. That would be like you are me fasting for a weak, then taking some whey protein hydrosolate to prove it's superiority. Find me a bunch of studies comparing whey hydrosolate to OTHER whey isolates and or whey mixes or concentrates. And I mean a bunch. And each one should build on the other using similar protocols. I know there are lots out there I just haven't done my research
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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.
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