Hmmmm....instead of that I would recommend you go with the bcaa's, CEE, and citrulline malate separately. All of which they have. I haven't checked but I think this would save you money and give you better, noticable benefits. Mostly in terms of the CM versus all the arginine stuff. Plus CEE in bulk by itself should be just as good as all the various creatine products they have in there.

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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.