LOL, here we go with the strength vs hypertrophy thing again. I'm not getting into it anymore.
I'm not sure who is agreeing or disagreeing with what but hrdgain is right for the most part in what I was getting at.
But this is what everyone is missing to me: As hrdgain said you can't beat lower reps (something like 5x5) for stength and mass. But if you discount the importance of a very good stength base is getting to your mass potential then you are making a mistake. All these people who talk about hypertrophy and high reps need to look at this on little thing: if you haven't tried a strength/mass routine you really don't have a lot of room to talk.
I'm sorry but it's true. If you've never done a strenght/mass routine then don't go telling the people who know about it it doesn't work for "hypertrophy". The faster you get the core lifts up close to your stength potential the more impact those high reps and everything else you do will have in terms of hypertrophy.
I recommend what I've done and what I have the best results from. Period. There are times for differnet rep ranges as hrdgain said. And I use them all at one point or another in my training. But if you don't think that 5 sets of 5 reps in a progressive fullbody routine doesn't stimulate a lot of growth it is because you've never done it. You can get a lot of growth from a conjugate westside routine...there is after all the RE days.
But Iron go ahead and speak about the difference between bodybuilding and strength all you want. It won't matter to me becasue I am speaking from my experience and the experience of people who know more than me. Some day you'll discover that science won't make you big. That it's just a tool. But if you discount experience of others it really won't do me a lot of good to argue.
As far as I'm concerned that post of mine was a brilliant one
j/k
Try reading Madcow's article on the subject here:
http://www.bodybuilding.net/training...rent-2972.html
Iron Bull I see what you are saying btw about all fibers being stimulated but don't discount the effect of the neural effeciency gained from lower reps also. To me when people start talking about stimulation of fibers and all that they are getting lost in the details. I don't mean that as an insult is just think it's an easy trap to fall into in the quest for knowledge. What you learn about yourself through your own training is just as important as anything you read, also, imo. But it's nice to have very clear signs pointing you to the right paths.
And Iron, you may not have noticed but I have over 2500 posts on the forum so, yes, I know the name of it
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Sorry, lefedex, for the severe hyjacking! Hopefully you get something out of it.