I don't think I had seen that one, nice find. As far as I know there aren't any others that examine the same sups but at different times (other than around the workout). I'm gonna link back to this in post one of the sticky.

There really is a lot of evidence supporting this. Obvioulsy one needs to consider his own goals and sensitivities, and in the long run, as I always say, you have to judge for yourself whether it is right for you.

I would like to see stuff examaning different pre-workout protocols in terms of timing and protein/carb type. If only just for curiousity's sake.

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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.