Well different circuits are designed with different goals. So like you say your primary goal may be athletic fitness but body composition may be a side goal. But I wasn't speaking of things that were mssing but more about things that could be replaced by more functional movements and, as I said, other things like sprints or even rowing.

When you say athletic to me that means not only are you going for aerobic endurance but that the specific movements have a purpose also that relates to athletic fitness. What I was talking about was things like Dave mentioned.

You mentioned Pec Deck. Messing up the shoulders is one thing. The other thing is how does pec deck have to do with athletic improvement. The answer...it doesn't. It's a bodybuilding machine (and not a very good one). You'd be better off throwing in some clap pushups or something...I don't know.

Same thing with leg extensions.

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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.