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Old 04-17-2007, 10:29 AM
EricT EricT is offline
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Yeah I'll definitely be watching other stores. I don't shop there anymore anyway.

On another not I got a mail from trueprotein. They have been able to lower their shipping prices. I had stopped shopping there because of the steep shipping...accross the country.

I went on dairyline and apparently the demand from whey is way up. It's just become very popular all over the place and more as a food ingredient, etc. As demand goes up, prices will increase.

Apparantly, too, supplies (milk wise) are a little tight.

By Genaro C. Armas, Associated Press Writer | March 30, 2007

STATE COLLEGE, Pa. --Dairy economists predict the retail price of milk could rise as much as 30 cents per gallon -- a 9 percent jump -- by fall. The reasons include rising fuel and feed costs for farmers and increasing demand for milk products around the globe.

The average retail price of whole milk could rise to $3.35 per gallon by October, up from $3.07 in January, said Ken Bailey, an agricultural economist at Penn State University who specializes in the dairy industry.

A U.S. Department of Agriculture forecast also predicts an increase in the price that processors pay to farmers for raw milk. That is typically an indicator that the retail price of milk also will rise.

Yet seesawing milk prices seem to have little effect on the buying habits of consumers like Celesta Powell.

Powell buys four gallons of milk every week for her four children, and even with milk prices expected to rise, she says she has no plans to cut back.

"You can't look at cutting your kids back on milk," she said after loading several bottles of milk from Meyer Dairy store into her minivan recently. "What are you going to give them, soda?"

When the average price of milk rose 19 percent in the spring of 2004, milk purchases declined less than 4 percent, said Stephanie Smith, a Denver-based nutritionist and spokeswoman with the National Dairy Council.

Habit and nutritional concerns appear to loom large, Smith said. USDA nutritional guidelines, for instance, recommend that most Americans drink 3 cups of skim or low-fat milk a day, or the equivalent amount of cheese.

The price of milk swings by classic supply-and-demand economics, said Douglas Eberly, counsel for the Pennsylvania Milk Marketing Board. When prices dip, it makes it harder and more expensive for farmers to make milk.

If demand remains constant, but the supply of milk goes down, prices tend to increase. That may allow farmers to ramp up milk production again, which increases supply and in turn likely lowers the retail cost of milk.

Logan Bower, president of the Professional Dairy Managers of Pennsylvania, said costs for farmers have risen so much recently that he is unsure whether even the predicted price increases will help.

Costs have surged for fuel and petroleum-based products and for the corn used to feed dairy cows, a side effect of increases in the production of ethanol.

Bower said he now pays about $180 a ton to feed his 500 dairy cows, up from $115 a ton a year ago, an increase of more than 50 percent.

There is also a growing demand for products like skim milk powder, dry whey and whey protein concentrates, which are exported for feeding programs in areas including the Middle East, Asia and Cuba, Bailey said. Whey powder is used in animal livestock feed.

"The result is that domestic supplies of these milk protein products are limited and global market prices are rising," he said. "That feeds back to the farm price of milk."

Federal legislators recently have drawn up bills seeking relief.

Sen. Bob Casey, D-Pa., earlier this week introduced an amendment that would pay Pennsylvania dairy farmers a subsidy for milk produced over the past six months.

Casey said the amendment would provide about $125 million in aid to help dairy farmers deal with higher energy, feed and other production costs.

"Without relief, more dairy farms may join the 250 to 350 dairy farms that go out of business every year in Pennsylvania," he said in a statement.

But Phoebe Bitler, vice president of Pennsylvania Dairy Stakeholders, an industry group that includes farmers, producers and grocery stores, said the price of milk should not be so dependent on subsidies for farmers so consumers get an accurate gauge of costs.

"We've made it so that the farmer has to produce it cheaper and cheaper all the time," said Bitler. "The real price needs to be paid for the product, rather than a subsidy price."
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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.

Last edited by EricT; 04-17-2007 at 11:28 AM.
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