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Old 04-18-2007, 07:32 AM
EricT EricT is offline
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If someone makes scientific statements, Dante or whoever, about insulin spikes, fat storgage at night, and all that, then they need to be able to back that up. If it's about "experience" that is great and I respect that. But you can't have it both ways

That was my point about insulin spikes. You're not avoiding them just because you have a carb cuttoff. There are a number of nutrition PHD's who also successfully train competitive bb'rs who will tell you that...you are getting insulin spkes a lot more than you think. It's more likely more about energy in and out.

People can go on and on about curing insuline resistance but there is on obvious fact. The biggest casue of insulin resistance is obesity. Just losing fat will reduce insulin resistance.

To me just because online trainers put people on successful cutting diets doesn't mean that the specific dietary myths they cling to are correct. People have success DESPITE their clinging to outdated myths. But again, if we are going to talk about insulin spikes, which everyone is obsessed with, that is a SCIENTIFIC statement and it should be backed up. If not we are talking about observational opinion. I'd rather see one or the other. But like I said I don't really think it's a big issue.

A lot of people tout cutoffs but not a lot of well known nutrition AND training guys. Nutrition IS a science but I certainly respect experience. But I doubt very much that a guy on a calorie deficit, eating lots of protein is going to see his fat stores shoot throught the roof because he eats some brown rice before bed. I agree that everything cannot and need not be backed by science. But for all the things we are concerend with, I think that nutrition is the area where we will most benefit from science.

But let me be clear to anyone who doesn't know me. I am just talking about the science I have seen about these things and the opinions of some "experts" I trust. When it comes to cutting don't take anything I say as coming from experience. It's just information is all.
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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.

Last edited by EricT; 04-24-2007 at 06:12 AM.
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