^^ not just by mike sleazy, also by Pat Arnold of Ergopharm. That whole thing is a huge mess, but I havent seen any negative test results for havoc, just for epistane.

0311, you crack me up man. funny as hell.

Joker, did you really not like UL M-dien, I have a bunch left too. I have only used it at low doses on a cut, but it was awesome IMO. Kept my strength up while cals were in the basement, although it did screw with my sleep patterns a bit.

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