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Old 04-27-2007, 01:09 PM
EricT EricT is offline
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It's just info. I'm certainly not saying people should eat a bunch of high GI or GL carbs.

It is, however, info aimed at the general public. And no matter how a bodybuilder may look at it, the average person doing some type of fad diet is experiencing WEIGHT loss, not just FAT loss. Sorry but it's true. Furthermore if you look at ANY fad diet, high protein, whatever, they all have in common a calorie deficit. Some of them RIDICULOUSLY low. Low enough to guarantee both muscle and fat loss regardless of whatever gimmick the diet is based around. But is also depends how much fat we're talking about. Because if there is enough fat involved then a simple energy deficit is going to be mostly fat loss.

The main cause of so-called metabolic syndrome is being overweight/obese and physically inactive. A lot of people will say it the other way around because they want to sell you something. They'll say metabolic syndrome causes your overweigtness. That may be true for some individuals with genetic factors but their principal reason for saying it is to make you think you're inability to lose weight is out of your control because of your "metabolic" problems. So enter "product X."

I do think that people are putting a little to much nit picking thought into insulin control. They are taking information about a hoast of metabolic disorders, some of them unrelated, and then applying them to a pysically fit person who is healthy. You take a person who is obese and desparately needs to lose weight the fact is that losing all that excess fat is going to do a WHOLE lot more toward curing their insulin resistance than whether they ate high or low GL carbs during the diet. And if they are able to keep the fat off in the long run then all the better. This is the main therapy, in fact, weight loss and exercise.

It would be much better for them to retain muscle but I still don't see how the GL of the carbs will keep them from retaining muscle during a slow steady weight loss if they are not on too low an energy deficit and are weight training. I'm not saying they should be eating a bunch of high GL carbs either. And just keeping the weight loss slow and steady in itself assures better lean mass retention.

What applies to some guy cutting because he wants to see his six-pack and is essentially on a crash diet doesn't really apply to someone with a real weight problem.

For me I agree it doesn't prove anything. But neither does all the other "theory" regarding fat loss that so many take for the gospel.

BTW, for GLYCEMIC LOAD, high is anything over 20. GL of 20 or more is high, a GL of 11 to 19 inclusive is medium, and a GL of 10 or less is low. And to determine it you take the glycemic index of the food, divide by 100 and multiply it by carbohydrate amount.

Again, let me be clear, I just thought it was an interesting result. I'm not trying to say people should be consuming high GL diets.
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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.

Last edited by EricT; 04-27-2007 at 02:38 PM.
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