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for the last 4 i was with the army rangers running 10-20 miles a week, so i did not really matter how much i lifted i was not really going to get big.
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I can relate!
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I am taking my multi vits, cell mass, and plenty of whey. should i give some ph's a shot or should i wait. I am currently 22, 5'8", and 172lbs.
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Here's the deal. Try going to fitday.com and let us know exactly how much protein/carbs/fats you're getting. Be completely honest because telling us e-numbers doesn't do you any good. Off hand, you should be at around 300-350 grams of protein and carbs, and about 75-100 grams of fat.
If you're nowhere close to those numbers, then your supplement list should include dextrose (postworkout), flax seed oil (fats), and fish oil (regardless).
Grocery list should include lots of oatmeal, brown rice, extra virgin olive oil, meat. LOL, I'm so broke blowing my wad on groceries that the only supplements I can afford are protein, dextrose, and creatine mono!
Still, I'm gaining just as much as when I was taking CEE, waxy maize, ect. So supplements as a whole really don't matter IMHO.