very good points made!!

one of the biggest faults i have found with Mentzer's writings is his obsession with the term "overtraining". i since have learned that there is a HUGE difference between being overtrained and simply being fatigued or tired.
imo, fatigue management is probably the single most important factor for continued progress and probably the most difficult to fine tune, especially as we (hopefully) adavance.

so yeah i agree a few missed reps or PR's does NOT mean your routine needs an overhaul or that you need to add more and more rest days like Mentzer advises.
Something Rip pointed out in PP was the tendency for people to make the wednesday offload too stressful therefore negating the reason for doing it in the first place. i recall him saying we need to resist the temptation to add more volume or use heavier weights even though we may feel like we arent doing much.
also there are so many outside factors that impact fatigue that making generalized recommendations is the best a guy can do when writing a book. in the end it comes down to you and/or your coach fine tuning the parameters of your program as you go along.

very interesting thread, thanks!

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