LOL, dude I don't care about drinking and smoking. And watch your language. I wasn't only referring to your post but all the post in general. Your post was called "is it ok" after all. There are many ways something can impact your growth besides estrogen which you never mentioned in your original post. That was my point. It is up to you whether you smoke or drink enough to impact you in the gym. If you want to pretend you were asking an academic question then fine. But you asked "will it keep him from growing In ANY way"...no one can answer that. So did you want an honest answer which you got from me or did you want people to give you an answer based on speculation about estrogen. I drink some. I smoke some. Sometimes. If I do it enough it will impact my gains.

I didn't chew you out and jump on you. I gave you a very straight and pointed answer based on the fact that I've had a few years to put drinking and smoking in perspective. I will read and reply to anything I see fit and I will give the answer I see fit to give. If I think something is childish and that a little perspective might help someone I will say so. If you think that is childish then I'm fine with that but I think you can say it without throwing a fit.

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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.