All good points guys, and I agree with most of it, especially when it comes to the training forum, and prob the diet forum too. But honestly how many times can you answer the same questions about cee before you lose your mind?

I'm all for discussion, but my point is only this, if your too lazy to read the stickies, then why am I going out of my way? I have no problem helping people that want to help themselves, and I see nothing wrong with saying, read the stickies, and if you still have questions then please post them.

I do agree that on most boards when you ask generic questions the flaming of "search button newb" and "read the stickies ass" or whatever stupid responses come up are just rediculous, and I dislike that very much. But honestly the only time I see stuff like that here is when newbies get attitude about people not tailoring them a diet and training routine after they have 4 posts.

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