Yep, cardio is secondary to diet when losing large amounts of weight. It is complementary in that sense. If you want to see how this is true just look at a big gym. If your were to observe closely you would see the same people plugging away at the cardio day after day with nary a change in body comp. That's cuz so many people convince themselves that all they have to do is get on a treadmill. That is true for some few people but in "general" diet is what's going to make or break you. It may not have to be huge changes but it's really the key. Or perhaps it would be better to say "eating habits".

But Markus has some very good points about diet. as do you, E, and I have to agree with a lot of it.

As far as diets, you know, all the popular fad diets that have been around for a while have the same records of success. That's because any diet for the overweight, if it has some kind of a calorie deficit, will work at first, no matter what the gymick of the diet is. The problem is one of long term compliance. It's not that people don't lose weight, it's that the diet can't be stuck to long term. The key is not a "diet" at all because a "diet" speaks of something short term. The key is long term lifestyle changes you can live with.

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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.