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Old 08-11-2007, 12:43 PM
EricT EricT is offline
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You know the whole thing with PP and all this is the idea that the fastest possible progress is always the best. But there are two different things to consider. The FASTEST and the most SUSTAINABLE.

I've made the argument on several occasions that the fastest way to progress is not necessarily always the best. For several reasons. One is that the fastest way to progress is the most likely to result in injury. Two, the quicker strength is gained the easier it is to lose. Three, the fastest way is the least sustainable way which results in the most disruption in training and the most complicated programming over the long term. Four, the progress that can be sustained the longest simply results, in the long term, with the most progress, due to all of the reasons stated above.

Is this always true or desirable, no. Nothing is ever cut and dry but there are always things to consider and learn.

Something Riddick said actually made me want to say this. It's something I've always considered as important. People like to say that, for example, Starting Strength is best for everyone. I've even been quilty of that and I've found myself criticizing programs because they would not provide the fastest possible mode of progress. But if your are not a professinal athlete it may not be and there are simply MANY reasons why it would not always be the best to gain this way. That is not to say that it is not well thought out. Since the ideas about beginners, intermediates, and advanced are very good at keeping people from misunderstanding various stages of training. Without these ideas a guy who reached plateaus on a workout to workout basis might go to some extreme measures to continue progression and end up severely messing up. But even not I see from the various comments that people are not able to separate PROGRAMS from THEORIES all the time.

I've been looking for someone who has written something on this and I found an article by Charles Stahley which I think is a very good counterpoint. I'm going to include it here but it is not to ignite a bunch of controversy or to try to beat down RIP. It is just to present another side of the coin. EVERYTHING should be countered and thought through. Never except things blindly. Yes sometime people engage in useless overanalysis and that results in stoppage but the other end of that is excepting the word of on or two people as gospel and never questioning it. Certain things that are great in some ways can be bad in others.
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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.

Last edited by EricT; 08-11-2007 at 01:15 PM. Reason: Just added one senstence.
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